Skill Replaces and Attributes

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I have a couple of questions regarding Skill Replacements. The example I will use is the Skald Talent of Sagas. He can replace Command, Counsel, Insight and Lore for Persuade skill. If a normal roll for say an Insight check is Awareness + Insight does the Skald use Personality + Persuade for same roll or does it use Awareness + Persuade? Likewise with Pantherish Twist, normally a parry is Co-ordination + Parry, does Pantherish Twist (which allows a replacement of parry for acrobatics ) use Agility + Acrobatics or Co-ordinations + Acrobatics.
Second part of this is if I have the Persuade Talent of Naturally Charming (or any other talent bonuses ie d20 re-rolls etc) which adds +1 momentum per rank to a successful Persuade test, do they still apply if I am using the Persuade skill for a different skill (ie per Sagas replacing Persuade for Insight roll) as in the above example.

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My thought is yes you would use the attribute associated with new skill and yes the talent would still count even though you are using a new skill.

I will be curious how others handle that as well.

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Same here, I assumed you would use the attribute associated with the new skill, so you wouldn’t need to calculate a new TN, just use the normal TN listed for the new skill. I’m assuming the skill is always based on the same attribute, regardless of what you’re using it for. I also assume the talent would apply, because talents are tied to the skill, so would apply any time you use that skill, regardless what you use it for.

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So, there are two specific rulings here, for the sake of clarity:

  • When you have a talent that lets you replace which skill you roll for a test, use the new skill’s normal TN and Focus. This is for the sake of simplicity.
  • When you have a talent which lets you replace which skill you roll for a test, that test still counts as what it was originally: if you’re using Persuade on a Command test, it’s still a Command test, you just get to use your Persuade skill instead. Again, this is for simplicity - I’ve seen people try to justify using one skill replacement talent to set up a second skill replacement talent so they could get all sorts of sneaky extra bonuses.
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What about needing a Skill that is not actually listed. are you able to roll against the Attribute number with the appropriate 19-20 complication rule?

Also can you roll using the attribute of one and the skill of another.