Thanks for all the replies! I didn’t see any other recent threads about the book in this forum, should I be directing my questions somewhere else/more official than my own thread?
Edit: The Par’tok transport’s physical description is very different from the Par’tok at Memory Alpha. Is this intentional, or was the description meant for the civilian transport? https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/Par’tok_type
What’s your concern? There’s hardly any info at MA on the Par’tok. We provided more detail on the spaceframe.
The spaceframe resembles an exaggerated D7 from the 23rd
century with a wide command pod at the front…
The physical description makes it sound like a D7 with cargo pods attached to a longer neck, which is very much not what it is. I can see how the description works with the show’s version, but on first reading (before I googled the name out of curiosity) I imagined something with a much larger command pod and a much wider, flatter engine area on the back. I do like the in-game stats, especially the cargo pod talent rules.
Regarding ships generally, it’s not made explicitly clear in the space frames section that all the scale 2 craft are small craft. Because they’re lumped in with all the regular space frames, it almost feels like they should get their own mission profiles (especially the raptor scout, which is an actual “ship” in my mind) even though, as small craft, the profiles would bump their department stats over the 2 limit.
If I remember correctly, not all scale 2 vessels are “small craft”. They have to have the trait.
I think the distinguishing factor is whether is designed to operate independently or relies on a “mother ship” of some kind. Shuttles are definitely small craft, but runabouts sit right on the border, and the likes of the Raptor or the Baxial are definitely not.
So does that mean the Qo’toch Heavy Fighter (for example) gets a mission profile? That seems a bit overpowered, especially compared to the Federation fighter in the Command book.
It looks like it to me. It has a crew of up to 6 and can operate for a week at maximum warp - a very different beast to the 1 or 2 seat FAF. The description even mentions mission profiles…
Thanks. I should have thought of that.
I suppose, but a runabout is similar in crew size and ability to have modules, so I’m not sure that’s an argument for a class 2 being allowed to bypass the 2 max on departments—and it is explicitly compared to runabouts. It also mentions that it was deployed with the escort immediately before it in the list, which has extensive shuttlebays and is noted as being used as an escort carrier. It all implies to me that the qo’toch is a small craft similar to runabouts, used as a fighter when assigned to a scale 5 fighter carrier.
The current DtRPG version say it is 3rd printing. I got the Humble Bundle and the went and got one of the DtRPG bundles when I learned support couldn’t add my Humble Bundle to DtRPG.
The DtRPG file gives a date of May 2020 in the PDF name.
I can see your argument, but I can only go by the apparent intent of the book.
The Raptor and the D-5 are definitely not Small Craft as far as I can see (and are not labelled as such), but are Scale 2, presumably due to their physical size (note that Scale 2 seems to cover from 5-50 or even 100 m) - neither would operate from the shuttlebay of another vessel. The Toron (Scale 1) is definitely labelled as a Small Craft.
The K’toch and Qo’toch are not labelled as Small Craft, but are Scale 2 and sound like they might be (large) shuttle-sized vehicles - I don’t recall seeing either onscreen so {shrug}. Giving one the Small Craft trait would severely restrict its combat capabilities (due to the power and shield halvings), but not doing so and giving it a Mission Profile would turn it into a viable base of operations for a small Crew (although Crew Support might be a little weird given the small crew size for both). You could argue that the Danube falls into a similar category and I think that would be valid. I would definitely argue against the FAF though - its excessive size is due to its wingspan.
(Hmm, looking at the Memory Alpha entry for the K’toch and then following the link to John Eaves’ sketches seems to imply it’s Scale 1! Which presumably would mean the Qo’toch is also tiny - so ???)
I’m not sure what you mean by adding Mission Profile makes a small vessel overpowered. MPs add a few department points and a talent (which would be limited by the Scale). Bear in mind that the department and system ratings for a vessel make very little difference in the game - they’re only ever used to assist (1 at most out of 3-5 dice) and for smaller vessels the numbers are usually quite low. It’s one of the few things that bugs me about this system - there’s very little game mechanics difference between different vessels beyond their size and talents, so the other stats are almost irrelevant! (I’m a warpcorehead and proud of it!)
Fair enough; you’re absolutely right about the interesting lack of stat differences between ships (although scale has a huge effect on how much damage a ship can take). The thing about the Qo’toch is that if it gets the warship mission profile, it then has a shields value of 10. Which I suppose isn’t that much, but it just seems high for a scale 2 fighter.
And reading it now, there’s mention of refits, which, given that the ship entered service in 2298, opens the potential for some extremely high stats for a scale 2 ship (even given the “stats are mostly the same for ships” thing).
Is there an errata for the finalized Klingon Core rulebook?
(I noticed a couple of things I think are wrong while working on changes to the character generator, and I was wondering if an official correction exists).
BC
No errata for the Klingon core yet. Feel free to email me what you think are errors and I’ll attempt to answer. Jim.johnson at modiphius.com
You mean the roles and benefits on pages 115-116?